In this case, as progressives always say we must learn from the Nordic model. I was on Power Line blog looking over a story on how Venezuela’s state run beer company is going to cease most of its production at the end of the month and of course the Sandroids came out of the woodwork to claim Venezuela isn’t doing it right:
The response of myself and others:
I figure that enough time has gone by to where I can reasonably assume none of us who questioned Ms. Bowden will ever get an intelligent response. If one does some simple research into how a country like Denmark pays for its welfare state it’s apparent that more than the 1% pay high taxes. According to the European Commission’s Taxes in Europe Database the Danish Value Added Tax is 25%, with a few exceptions. Doesn’t a 25% national sales tax sound great? It’s even better if it never shows up on your receipt; it’s like it’s not even there! How about a tax on food with over the “triviality limit” of 2.3% fat? 180% car registration taxes? How about those 40% national income taxes (remember, this doesn’t count municipal taxes) for anyone who makes over 49,900 DKK (about $7,000 US)? I didn’t post a direct link to the tax pages because the website doesn’t let you enter your tax searches in as a direct link to go to the webpage on the tax you’re looking for. It’s a fairly easy website to navigate though.
The “1%” will never have enough money on their own to provide everything Bernie and his Sandroids are demanding. For anyone who would like to review my debunking of how progressives claim poverty is rising and how giving more free stuff is the solution I’ll refer you to one of my previous posts. Do people in “poverty” have cable TV and smartphones? Concerning Ms. Bowden’s comments on “strong social policy” making Denmark a great place to do business let’s look at Forbes’ The Best Countries for Doing Business 2015 list. Here are some good excerpts:
“The picture isn’t as bright for the U.S., which slides four spots to No. 22. It continues a six-year descent since 2009 when the U.S. ranked second overall. The U.S. is the financial capital of the world and its largest economy at $17.4 trillion (China is second at $10.4 trillion), but it scores poorly on monetary freedom and bureaucracy/red tape. More than 150 new major regulations have been added since 2009 at a cost of $70 billion, according to the Heritage Foundation.”
Clearly, passing some more laws and regulations will help the economy.
“Denmark has ranked first in six of the 10 annual editions of FORBES’ Best Countries list. The country has been in the news in the U.S. lately thanks to Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, who holds up the nation of 5.6 million people as a model socialist utopia. The country does have one of the highest individual tax burdens in the world in exchange for its wide-ranging services, but it is very much a market-based economy.”
Bernie’s not accurately representing the Nordic countries, but when has the truth mattered to the Party?
“Denmark ranked in the top 20 in all but one of the 11 metrics we used to gauge the Best Countries for Business (it ranked 28th for red tape). It scored particularly well for freedom (personal and monetary) and low corruption. The regulatory climate is one of the world’s ‘most transparent and efficient,’ according to the Heritage Foundation.”
Is Obamacare “transparent and efficient“?
“The $341 billion Danish economy has been listless of late, growing only 1.1% last year and likely not much better in 2015 when the books are closed. A drop in export revenue has been the main culprit, but the foundation is in place for strong economic activity ahead. The Danish stock market is enthusiastic about the country’s prospects. It is up 34% over the past 12 months.”
Perhaps it’s just me, but Ms. Bowden is the one not using facts and lying. Would a progressive like to share with me how giving out free stuff helps the economy? Funny enough, the government of Norway has admitted that it’s welfare state is unsustainable. From Reuters:
“Norway’s energy boom is tailing off years ahead of expectations, exposing an economy unprepared for life after oil and threatening the long-term viability of the world’s most generous welfare model.
High spending within the sector has pushed up wages and other costs to unsustainable levels, not just for the oil and gas industry but for all sectors, and that is now acting as a drag on further energy investment. Norwegian firms outside oil have struggled to pick up the slack in what has been, for at least a decade, almost a single-track economy.”
Off to a great start.
“‘In Norway, job security seems to be taken for granted, almost like it’s a human right to have a job,’ says Hans Petter Havdal, CEO of car-parts maker Kongsberg Automotive.”
Don’t tell Bernie that you can limit how many rights the State can give you. This Havdal is an obvious thoughtkriminal!
“Kongsberg Automotive has only 5 percent of its workers left in Norway, having moved jobs to places like Mexico, China and the United States, and keeping only high-tech, automated functions at home. It says it is struggling with high labor costs and even problems such as excessive sick leave.
‘It’s a bit discouraging that the sick leave in Norway is twice the level of other plants,’ Havdal said. ‘That is to me an indication that something is not as it should be.’”
Don’t tell Bernie, but his idea for a national $15/hr required wage will just get people fired and replaced by robots.
“In 2012, a new word entered the Norwegian lexicon – to ‘nave’, or live off benefits from welfare agency NAV.
‘Approximately 600,000 Norwegians … who should be part of the labor force are outside the labor force, because of welfare, pension issues,’ says Siv Jensen, the finance minister.”
Translation: welfare queen; also remember that Norway only has a population of five million.
“It also boasts the world’s highest GDP per hour worked, according to the OECD, but labor productivity has declined since 2007, and since 2000 its unit labor cost has risen around six times faster than in Germany.”
I guess that this won’t last.
“Neighbor Sweden, meanwhile, cut sickness and unemployment benefits and lowered income, wealth and corporate taxes. Its tax burden has fallen by four percentage points of gross domestic product, now making it lower than France.
But such wage adjustment in Norway is unlikely in the near term, and unions dispute that the country has a competitiveness problem. Industrial workers nearly went on strike in April until last-minute concessions.”
I think that the wonderland progressives are imagining in the Nordic countries was and is going down the drain. For anyone who’s interested, below are some articles about Denmark rolling back its welfare system:
The idea that the Nordic countries are perfect and all economic growth can be attributed to what amounts to free stuff is false and needs to be exposed for the lie it is.